Hmmmn, which one of those best describes the biblical god?
If you were a cruel "god" you would torture them for your twisted entertainment.
this post is not meant to be blasphemous to non-atheists on this forum , just philosophical.
i refer to a god rather than the creator.
it;s 10,000 years in the future and you are a phd student with a brain the size of a planet, that has incredible technology at your fingertips to create life, similar to humans living today or better, intelligently and physically.
Hmmmn, which one of those best describes the biblical god?
If you were a cruel "god" you would torture them for your twisted entertainment.
why do the 144,000 need sealing?.
what does it mean that the angels hold back the winds so that the sealing can take place?.
where is the great multitude?.
Thanks Jan, I didn't know that.
Doug Mason; No, it was not Paul who said women could not teach. That was written by a misogynist at the end of the first century who pretended to be Paul.
So I guess what your saying Doug is that although Paul wrote 1 Timothy, someone else inserted these words into Paul's letter;
1 Tim 2:12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
That wouldn't be far-fetch since the WT has inserted Jehovah into the NT about 300 time I believe.
why do the 144,000 need sealing?.
what does it mean that the angels hold back the winds so that the sealing can take place?.
where is the great multitude?.
Hey Doug, what was the deal with women back then in the Jewish nation? Why was having sex with women a bad thing. The other nations didn't have a problem with it. The whole Bible seems to either blame women-EVE, see them as unclean - Babylon the harlot, and they couldn't even teach according to Paul.
on (new testament scholar) bart ehrman's blog, the topic of luke's view of the purpose of jesus'.
death has been discussed.. in that discussion, ehrman points out how luke did not set forth the idea of atonement, rather luke set forth the idea of forgiveness.. on the other hand, mark and paul teach atonement.. these two points of view have been "mashed together" into a package deal, apparently, throughout history by theologians.. _________________________.
someone pays a debt owed by another.
I could never wrap around the idea of forgiveness. Forgiveness for what, what did I do??
Atonement = pay my debt. I never borrowed anything from God.
But your right, I always noticed that Luke talks about a preaching work that is different from the preaching work that Matthew talks about.
(Luke 24:47) . . .and on the basis of his name repentance for forgiveness of sins would be preached in all the nations. . .
(Matthew 24:14) 14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; . . .
Luke preaches forgiveness while Matthew preaches the Kingdom.
Paul was good at tying in the sacrifices of Jewish Law with the death of Jesus and Mark evidently adopted Paul's views since they hung around quit a bit.
(Acts 12:25) . . .As for Bar′na·bas and Saul, after having fully carried out the relief ministration in Jerusalem, they returned and took along with them John, the one surnamed Mark.
so i've been pretty good at not going to meetings lately.
yesterday i went for the co's last talks.
older co. his last talk was absolutely shocking.
Well at one one point he mentioned how he was Baptised at 11.
That explains a lot!
when i first learn ttatt i started telling every one.
ttatt will not help him, it will destroy him.
all his family are jws.
Diogenesister
This is what kills me about loosing my faith, the pain of knowing the universe is profoundly indifferent to us, faced with such suffering
Yea, ,me to!
the thought suddenly struck me plain and obvious: "these dogs won't stop until i'm good and bloody.".
there were two of them; a mixed breed of boxer and pit bull; clean, white--collared, tagged and--for some inexplicable reason, ferociously intent on tearing me to shreds!.
ah, but i'm getting ahead of myself.
Terry, that is an awful experience. My heart started racing when I was reading your experience. I don't ride a bike but I jog in the early morning in a park. About 4 months ago I was attacked by five dogs that were running loose. This was around 5:30 am and there was no one around to help me. Fortunately I was close to my truck and the door was open, so I escaped. I haven't jogged since because the experience scared the hoots out of me.
But it did get me to thinking since I love jogging in the early morning and I don't want to give it up.But I won't go without protection ever again. I decided to buy a small gun. So I'm saving the money to buy a Glock and carry it with me when I jog. I am going to take a lot of training, get a permit and when I'm ready, hopefully next summer, I'm going jogging again in the early morning.
Let those dogs come.
when i first learn ttatt i started telling every one.
ttatt will not help him, it will destroy him.
all his family are jws.
Diogenesister
I disagree your young elder with the JW family does not qualify. What the hell is someone in their 20's doing being an elder anyway? He should out gaining life experience and having fun doing it. Serve his community, yes, but in a more age appropriate way.
The 20 +year old is a quadriplegic, he can't go out and have fun and serve his community. He needs someone to push his wheel chair, change his diaper, feed him etc. His jw family does that.
i talked to a close friend that served with me as an elder for a few years.
he allowed me about an hour to explain why 607 is not the correct date for the destruction of ancient jerusalem.
i showed him all the scriptures needed and i showed him the wt magazines that proved it.
My eisegesis was epic. CTR himself would have been impressed with my bullshit.
LOL!
She died thinking that the very next thing she'd see would be Paradise. I did nothing to attempt to change that. I played right into what I believe to have been a false hope on her part, and solidified it as best I could for her
Those were some of the sweetest lies that ever passed my lips, I'd take none back.
Sometimes TTATT is flat out the worst thing that you can offer a JW, sad but true, imo.
That was cool, she died in peace.
when i first learn ttatt i started telling every one.
ttatt will not help him, it will destroy him.
all his family are jws.
Island Man
Every JW deserves to know TTATT. But special care needs to be exercised when sharing it with some
I agree special care is needed when sharing. I went through hell when I found out. I wasn't sure if I was going to make it. I was a daily and nightly struggle for a while. Then finally the clouds started clearing. I don't think I have the expertise to help everyone.